Re: [Salon] Setting the record straight: Quincy's position on Ukraine War

From my experience, Joe Cirincione is far from being a straight shooter -- not when the issue involves conclusions on which the current Democratic administration has based the justification for its policy. Specifically on the issue of the Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program, he promised to read my book, which I left at his office, but when I called him months later, he acted like anything I might have written was irrelevant and that it was a fact. He was the epicenter of "Arms Control Community" position that the misinformation and lies that I revealed in my book were irrelevant and couldn't be considered, the clearly implied reason being that they could not be in opposition to their friends in the Obama administration.

Gareth

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 12:59 AM Raymond L McGovern <rrmcgovern@gmail.com> wrote:

Joe Cirincione concludes that Putin is solely to blame for the war in Ukraine; he is entitled to think that. Besides, Joe is a straight shooter and I believe he is sincere in thinking that. In fact, Joe may still sincerely believe in Russia-gate, which – like so many others – he swallowed hook, line, and sinker. As is well known, Joe is super on arms control; on other issues – well, not so much. If Joe, and perhaps others, want to hear a different take on Russia and Ukraine, they could do worse than click on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9KAp97z58&t=1185s . (Kelley, perhaps QI could something with it on your website, should it be deemed worthy.)

Is it not a sad sign of the times that QI feels it has to defend itself in this way? No one, but no one, wants to end up “in Putin’s pocket”. Worse than sad.

Why does QI shy away from arranging an honest debate on this key issue? Everyone learns from a clash of views. I would nominate John Mearsheimer to represent the “realist school.” Would anyone want to nominate someone with different views who would be willing to explore these issues with John? Seems to me this is precisely the kind of thing QI should be doing. Ray

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 6:48 PM Kelley Vlahos via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:
All -- You might have seen the sturm un drang over Joe Cirincione leaving QI as a non-resident fellow because of our "morally bankrupt" approach to the war. This follows another high profile Democrat defection (Gen. Paul Eaton). This is our response, our actual position on the war, without the hyperbolic filter: https://quincyinst.org/press/quincy-institutes-position-on-russia-ukraine/

all the best,
Kelley V
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